Bonjour,
Je suis de Montréal et j'y suis né.
Sur la toile, je suis modeste modeste la plupart du temps. Je suis un errand du web, un affectionado des libertées individuelles et du droit à la libre expression et je crois que le web devrait être un espace d'échange plutôt neutre , accessible à coût presque nul ou l'anonymat y est protégé. J'aspire à un équilibre techno-écologie-pédagogie ou l'un aiderait l'autre.
Je crois que les modèles de copyright sont dépassés et doivent être remplacées. La forme immatérielle doit être libre d’utilisation si elle n'est pas exploitée de manière commerciale. Par contre je crois que les créations locales (province) ne doivent pas être "piratées" : la collectivitée doit protéger les agents de sa culture à l'échelle pan-canadienne.
Je ne me définis pas comme un spécialiste d'une technologie en particulier. Je suis plutôt un power-user.
Politiquement je suis un indépendantiste antireligieux qui croit en la force du partage des différentes cultures, philosophies et pratiques.
Question:
Si je souscrit au service vpn, je deviens membre du parti ?
Ou vice-versa ?
Donc mon frais de vpn mensuel,10$, pour lequel vous donnez un reçu,
c'est une dépense politique de laquelle je pourrai obtenir un remboursement partiel (75% environ je crois) sur mes impôts. ?
Oui / Non/ Retry /Pourquoi ?
I used Google Translate to get an English version of your post. I'm afraid I'm not versed well enough in French to respond as such, and hope you can translate this to your tongue of preference.
The cost of the VPN does not include a party membership. Nor does a membership fee include VPN access. The two operate separately because some people may wish to have only one of the two. I myself am a member, but haven't the funds to sign on to the VPN at this time.
You can become a member here: https://crm.pirateparty.ca/membership_signup.php
You can obtain a subscription to the VPN here: https://crm.pirateparty.ca/vpn
$7 of the $10 VPN subscription fee counts as a political donation. Elections Canada requires that only the amount paid in excess of our costs for providing the service counts as a donation. As such, this is equal to an $84 donation per year. As I understand it, receipts are provided.
Membership fees do not count as political donations.
I hope this answered your questions. Welcome to the forums.
As a note, I have been lobbying for months for us to include free VPN service as a "bonus" with our membership, either a couple months free, or 1GB/month or something.
Perfectly clear thanks a lot Shawn.
Shawn Gray wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Then, IMHO, while 1GB/month would be adequate for normal surfing...
If a member is part of the "our" in the sentence "...only the amount paid in excess of of our costs for providing the service...
VPN: 200gb monthLy for 10$ .
3$ = ''our'' cost for providing vpn. = 60gb (20gb = 1$)
Then mathematically it seems logical for members to have free vpn access up to 60gb...
If membership implies the member "sacrifice" his vpn acces to keep PP's cost low, it's ok for me to.
I'm no marketing Guru, but I believe Anonymous is legitimate in his request of a couple months free , or time limited , access to try/discover the vpn and it's usage implications...
Modeste_Modeste wrote:
Wish that was the way it worked, but I avoided the nitty gritty details on account of not having any control/influence over any of it either at inception, launch, or present. Unfortunately for reality, logic, law, and economics don't usually work together... To start, we're talking about four entities: The Pirate Party of Canada (henceforth, "the party"), the Pirate Party of Canada Fund (henceforth, "the nonprofit"), the VPN, and Elections Canada.
As I understand it, the "costs" deduction is actually what is considered "fair market value", for an equivalent service or product as defined under the Elections Canada Act. From the research gathered by the people involved in the the project's lauch, this worked out to about $3/month for a VPN account, with bandwidth limits varying extensively. When the VPN subsciption is "donated" to the non-profit, it must deduct this amount from any VPN subscription amount and can only count the amount in excess as a donation. It doesn't matter if someone uses 20 kb or the full 200 GB, the cost to the nonprofit is $3 (much as if you order a beer at a bar and only drink half, you still have to pay for the whole beer), if any amount is charged at all. Thus, in order for the nonprofit to raise any cash at all from this, they must charge a minimum of $3.01.
Again, as I understand it, the bandwidth limit was put in place to keep from going over the party's bandwidth limit (as administered through the nonprofit), with an eventual goal to remove the caps once a certain size of subscriber base was obtained. Not being directly involved in the project, I've no idea what the magic number was, or what supposed research was done at the time. I'm just going off how it was eventually explained to me after excessive badgering of Bakhos, Bleskie, Paulson (then-leader) and Vulliez (current-leader).
Membership in the party has nothing to do with the VPN, which is administered & run through the nonprofit. Although the VPN is associated with the party through advertisement, it is operated independently with the proceeds going to the nonprofit. Currently, 7/10 of the amount the nonprofit collects for VPN subscriptions counts as a donation, with the VPN operating as a fundraising tool of the party. This amount may change in time, it all depends upon how those in control of the VPN decides to re-leverage it as an asset of the nonprofit. The VPN has now been up for over a year, and technically is supposed to be re-evaluated by the leadership (I'm guessing the Executive Board as it deals with funds), to determine it's profitability and whether rates, bandwidth, etc should be adjusted. This would also be an excellent time for providing trial accounts to members as a way to market the product for increased subscriptions in the future.
There is nothing in the Elections Canada Act that says we can't give things away for free. The Elections Canada Act stipulates that for sold services, anything above "fair market value" is a donation, and for items sold, anything above the item's cost counts as a donation. These donations are also subject to the maximum $1200/year that someone can donate to political parties.
I'm pretty sure I've got that all straight. The nonprofit is the top of the umbrella, with the party and the VPN as its "children" organizations. Membership in one, is not currently membership in both. And like most "parents", the nonprofit is controlled by the will of its "children" but maintains the ability to make sure they don't get in too much trouble. Someone with more experience in electoral law may be able to explain it better, but from my experience as an agent during the 41st General Election, this is my understanding of the separation.
Again, I'm not sure who is in charge of Ostraca at this point. I suspect it may be managed by the IT Committee, with funding controlled through the Executive Board, but for all I know it may still be all in the hands of the head of the NPO, our official agent, Stephane Bakhos.
The party and the fund exist side-by-side, but only the fund is a corporation and hence a legal person. The Fund is responsible for managing the Party's accounts, but it has to maintain its own accounts (which I believe are zero) separately. I've always interpreted the VPN as being a Party initiative; the proceeds go to the Party accounts, not to the Fund. If they went to the Fund, they would not be subject to donation limits or provide tax receipts, but they could also not be used by the Party.
Other than that, it looks spot on.
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